December 24, 2004

Happy Holidays From The Crew of SORE THUMBS!
Posted By Chris Crosby at 1:41 AM
Owen and I wish you the happiest of season's greetings during this holiday time!

Antonio Silver, the wonderful actor who plays Fairbanks, has insisted that we include this Bible verse in our holiday greeting...

"And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell."
Mark 9:47

Very inspiring. Thanks, Antonio, see you next year! * 58 comments

58 Comments:

What on earth were you thinking with this comic?! It was bazar!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:56 AM  

I like the holiday special, though I was kind of disappointed that Dear Old Mumsy's actress didn't make an appearance.

Love the comic!

Lynn

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:46 AM  

i wont be happy till i see graphic fucking.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:27 AM  

What a RIOT! I even tried to go to Sarah Jane's web site :-). Keep up the good work!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:09 AM  

Anonymous wrote:
" What a RIOT! I even tried to go to Sarah Jane's web site :-). Keep up the good work!"

Me too...
On a side note, Mr. Silver's quote should be bold and underlined. (it is just that good.)

I wonder if Fairbanks will attend the Jesus Rally new years day...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:52 PM  

How tragic, to find that Sarah Jane Harper's website does not (yet) exist...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:40 PM  

I don't think we should ever stop e-mailing that Fairbanks isn't what conservative Christians are really like. :-)

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:39 PM  

blingy makes me sad... i like Sawyer better, because he has no penis. well, that's my ten cents. nice comic, btb.

anonymous mouse!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:44 AM  

Funny stuff, Sawyer's actor was a riot, ah satire I breathe the stuff. Keep up the good work all next yea yo hear?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:41 AM  

Has anyone ever noticed that baby boomers are worthless parisites?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:50 PM  

Is it me, or is the way that sarah jane spoke make me think they're planning to get rid of harmony?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:32 PM  

Of course not all conservative Christians are like that. There's three main types...

The nice, quiet ones (best kind!)... in other words, the only kind that really seem like they just might be actually going by what the bible says.

The "just like the average person" ones. Which are, of course, just like the average person.

The "berserker" kind. Loud and annoying. Unfortunately, most of the ones in real life act very, very similar to the way Fairbanks usually acts... except less funny, and in large groups. Many of this kind tend to be just as bad as all the "sinners" they're constantly bashing... anyone remember the Pharisees?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:04 PM  

OH, OH, I do! I do! They got blamed for shit they didn't do and brought more hate and misery to the Jews.
I love hypocrites. Especially the ones who spread irrational hate.
I hope there is a hell, so that they can be ass-raped for all eternity with a spiked dildo.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:01 AM  

What a lovely mental image. Thank you so much for that. Now I have someone to blame the nightmares on.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:05 AM  

Why stop with spikes though? How about serrated edges on the spikes, each one dipped in hydrochloric acid. And the wounds automatically heal, so they are in constant pain. All while heavy metal music plays at an unbearable level. And monkeys are involved somehow, just cause I like monkeys.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:11 AM  

I'm just saying that baby boomers have not really contributed anything. They spent all of social security's money and they expect younger people to take care of them. They want a generation that they didn't invest in to take care of them and they feel entitled to it too.
The real problem is that they have all the voting power now too, so, all generations that come after them will be their slaves until they all die.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:41 AM  

i'm curious, what does the baby boomers comments have to do with the holiday comic?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:54 AM  

I'm not sure what this baby boomer business is about, but I have to say I agree.

Not really in line with the holiday spirit that's supposed to be perpetuating the site for at least this week, though. Can't we put the debating aside and be friends? =(

~R

By Blogger Rock, at 11:55 AM  

For everyone to have something, no one can have everything.

- Infamous 370

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:42 AM  

That was more of a new year's comment and resolution. I guess I'm getting a head start, by meeting my resolution of being more mean this year.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:20 PM  

If anybody here does indeed remember the Pharisees, I'm impressed that such an ancient person has taken the time to learn how to use computers.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:05 AM  

I agree, I think the Pharisees would think that computers are evil. You know... with the porn.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:58 AM  

Then I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say that we're all going to Hell...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:30 PM  

Has it not occured to Fairbanks that his Christian God, must,to fit all the pre-conceptions of the various schisms, be formed of mirrors?

By Blogger Damoinion, at 3:08 PM  

Praised be you to the dark prince of the underworld.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:55 PM  

Stinkplugg would like this conversation...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:07 PM  

Funny comic, keep up the good work! Fairbanks head looks like a video game character"s head, but who I can't remember... Pacman? Yay Coleman! It's amazing what a few hours of prostetics can do... Oh, posters, thanks for that wonderful thought. I'll have many terrible dreams now. Kirby--> <(o".o)>

-Mecha Sonic-

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:47 AM  

shut up! sonics head looks like a fag!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:35 AM  

Erm, can you do an x-rated comic for older fans. Of cecina getting fu*ked. That would be amazing.

Jake

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:55 AM  

Based solely on your comment Jake, I dont think you're an adult reader...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:30 AM  

As an expert on hentai, I can assure everyone that any graphic imagery of Cecania would suck. The girls with the massive momajabas are always drawn in hentai with either grossly oversized (and I like em big, so that means, well, bigger than your torso), or for some very odd reason smaller. I guess it's just a perspective issue.

Seriously. We'd be better off with Harmony. Cause, you know, she'd end up somehow having the rack that Cecania is supposed to have. It's just hentai dynamics; it's inherent. I don't know why either, but that's how it works. ::Sigh::

-- To-wait a second, do I really want to post my name after saying all that?

--Anonymous by choice

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:41 PM  

Without evil, nothing would ever happen.

- Infamous 370

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:02 AM  

I need to see that movie...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:11 PM  

Anyone else waiting for a discussion board on the fact that the search for banned weapons in Iraq is over and has yeilded nothing of the sort? Hundreds of American soldigers and thousands of Iraqi insurgents, officers and civilians dead? Billions of dollars spent on a war that was poorly planned and executed without U.N support? International relations with the rest of the free world and America's global reputation severly damaged? Anyone think that someone should be held accountable instead of getting a medal? Anyone even care anymore? Or has it already been beaten to death so much that we all just want to move on and forget it?

Always assume nothing,
Always question everything,
Always believe in something,
just not me.

- Infamous 370

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:48 AM  

Well... Since the past CANNOT be changed, I'd say it's for the best to move along. Both for the USAnian and Iraqui people.

But with the added mission to try and find ways to keep this from happening again.

Because no matter how much insurgents make raids and occupational forces make counter-raids, the dead will remain dead.

/Karlsson, The Fat Man From Sweden

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:52 AM  

I think the whole world just went stupid is all...

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:03 AM  

I'm not even that pissed about it myself, I just wish we had answers to some questions.

Examples? Why did the guy in charge of the intelligence that said there were banned weapons in Iraq get a medal? For doing his job? Since when has the whitehouse had an 'employee of the month'-type award? Or better still, why does president Bush seem to think the world sees humility as a sign of weakness?

'You're with us, or you're with the terrorists'. A powerful and bold statement made by president Bush after the the attacks on the U.S three and a half years ago. I can't help but think that this was the wrong way to convey his message and I cartainly don't think it helped him win any allies. Maybe it's nothing, but it'll always stick in my mind and I'll bet we'll see it in the history books.

I can't really say I know anything about why he and his administration have done things the way they have. No one can call him an idiot, because he would not have been elected in the first place, much less a second time. All I can say for sure is that we will all continue to be dumbfounded by the way they handle things for the next four years. Thus, I will henceforth refer to him as 'Curious George', because his words and actions just leave many of us scratching our heads.

Always assume nothing.
Always question everything.
Always believe in something,
just not me.

- Infamous 370

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:19 AM  

i think 'the cecania' cocktail should be madew with cherry 7up instead of tonic. It will serve the same effect, but make it slightly sweet and of course, pink.


:P

~Wilson Trebuchet

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:27 AM  

Does it matter if weapons are found? Remember that Iraqis are blatant sinners. They even worship a false prophet. That part of the world needs some fixing, and it's about time we got around to it. There was no use procrasting this. We are the only country powerful enough in the world to do this thing and we needed to do it. With our many successes since then, it is clear that God approves.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:28 AM  

*dials phone* Hey, LL? Yeah, did Hell just freeze over or what?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:54 AM  

It's getting harder to tell whether someone's being sarcastic these days.

But I know that's sarcasm, because that keeps me sane.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:18 AM  

Maybe my language was too strong and I came across as an extremist. "Sinner" was a poor choice of word. But they do follow a false prophet and, importantly, won't (or wouldn't) let Christians in to show them their errors. It's not their fault, it's the oppression of their leaders that keeps them misled. That's why a war is necessary to ensure they have a chance for a better society.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:58 AM  

People get dumber and dumber... Go watch some TV. That'll take your mind off whatever it is you're trying to figuer out, but never will.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:59 PM  

Maybe this whole Iraq fiasco is just a sign that some administrative and policy changes need to be effected at the U.N and in the U.S gouvernment.

I'm not talking moral justification for the war, I just want to know that if not to find banned weapons, then how do they justify all the money they spent? They don't even seem visibly distraught or guilty after this obvious set of failures. They've been rolling merrily along like nothing's wrong, Hell, they've even had a couple of multi-million dollar parties. They've had ceremonies to give medals to members of their own administration. Hell, what did the presidential inauguration cost? Forty million? Give it to the Tsunami relief fund or something! Why make an evening of something that you could get done in an hour? A waste of time and money when their credibility and overall reputation in the eyes of the rest of the country and the world is far from stellar. One-hundred percent pure, unprocessed, grade A1, Texas-style bullshit.

I somehow doubt anything can be done to hold anyone accountable for this because it certainly would have been done by now if it was possible. I wouldn't even have such a problem with it if they'd actually show how they plan to make up half of the money they spent on the war. Oh, wait, it's the country's debt, isn't it? Once these next four years are up, Curious George and his administration aren't liable, are they?

I guess the only one left besides ourselves to hold the Curious George administration accountable for these screw-ups is his Christian God. As for every other religious denomination living in America, I guess we're the only ones who can make sure that this does not happen again. Otherwise, the coutry may not survive long enough for someone to tally the costs...

Always assume nothing.
Always question everything.
Always believe in something,
just not me.

- Infamous 370

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:53 PM  

Well, as a native Russian of the old Orthodox faith I believe United States of America to be the world's capital of sin. With your many religions you're forgetting the true faith - the one that predates the split between Rome and Byanthium, and that is, the Christian Orthodoxy! The Catholic Papacy is but an infidel sect and the multitude of Baptisms, Jehova's witnesses, Mormons, Protestants - all of this is just plain perversion, sick and foul, upon the face of the true faith. As a consequence the entire continent deserves to burn in hell.

Simply because you practice the wrong religion, you know. And yes, of course I know better, because my culture and my religion is older than yours. And my country has enough nuclear arms left to turn the planet into a giant iceberg. Obviously might makes right, so when I run for president of Russian Federation, my platform will be based on nuclear annihilation of North America. Should be popular right about now, considering what the rest of the world thinks of the nation who managed to elect Curious George twice. Shame on you.

P.S. This courtesy flush/wake up call is brought to you by the letters I, C, U and Sauron Inc. Cheers :)

P.P.S. Yes that means it was a joke. The only true statement here was that I'm Russian. And that the world at large isn't impressed with George.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:32 PM  

Dumb dumb dumb dumb. The dumbest thing is that you care. Bush, Russia, which church other people go to. They all have nothing to do with life. Losers thing about that stuff so they can feel like less of a loser. Yes, the majority of people are losers and most other are somewhere beneath "loser".

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:27 AM  

Meh, I don't really fall into any sort of religious group since the last time I was in a church was five years ago when my father got re-married. (I had to be the damned designated driver for half of my family because I pulled the effing short straw...) Plus I think that every religion has the whole concept of God somewhat wrong. So with that blasphemous admission, I'm going to Hell no matter what anyone believes in.

Always assume nothing.
Always question eveything.
Always believe in something,
just not me, or anything the Curious George party says.

- Infamous 370

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:22 AM  

it seems obviouse that the concept of any type of god is wholly false. there are too many things pointing towards the nonexistance of any higher being. well, the nonexistance of any GODLIKE higher being. infact, there is so much evidence, i cannot even state it all, whether speaking in person or typing. but one of my points is, most of the people who DO beleive in a god, mainly in the christian/catholic god, seem to contradict almost everything that almost every other christian/catholic says. i doubt that even 25% of the christian/catholic population has read the bible the whole way through. although it is rather amusing to watch them contradict themselves multiple times over in 1 sentence.

so, i will close with: if you have to beleive that some higher being created humans, then what higher being created god? "he's always been here" most of them say. but, if you can asssume that he created us and he's always been here, then why cant you assume that he doesnt exist and WE have always been here? (by we, i mean the earth and the universe and such)

i realise most people will argue against me about this, but they just cant face the truth.

posted by: D

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:06 PM  

If you say there is lots of actual *evidence* against the existence of a higher being/God, you are obliged to give at least one example. What you have given is merely a mystery, the like of which even science is filled with. I'm not arguing against you, I just want you to put forth a proper argument.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:31 PM  

Man, people are always talking about Science with the capital S. That's total junk, like there's a scientific thing that's opposed to religion. People who like to slam religion like to forget that religion has been the driving force behind most scientific and cultural revolutions.
As for the guy that likes watching people contradict themselves, well, yeah, people are stupid. Have you read the Bible through? Have you noticed that it provides a moral guideline for living your life that if followed leads to fufulling life (by almost everyone's standards; it's hard to debate this.) Is it also hard to explain why the Bible is still relivant to current events and is remarkably (dare I say) wise, even though it is extremely old (Yes, I'm aware that current versions of the Bible are far different from the acient texts from which they are derived, I'm sparring everyone that irrelivant retort.) The Bible also gives explainations that, while not scientific, are very good metaphores for why things are the way they are. It works if you follow it, which "Science" as you've explained it (which I don't consider to be aposed to religion) does not. In fact, Science has contradicted itself several times in just past two years.

Some people like to bash religion, because they're because they're stupid, close minded or angry about something stupid. You need to get your head out of your ass and actually do some thinking.

As a side note, it's impossible to aurgue against nihlism and agnosticism from a scienctific standpoint, just as it is impossible to aurgue against the exsistance of god from a religious standpoint.
Science's pre-concieved illogical notion is instant skeptisism and it studies the implications of that.
Religion assumes the exsistance of god and studies the implications of that.

Go watch the fucking Matrix or Lord of the Rings again, then you'll have some real insights I'm sure.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:32 AM  

Also, as a side note to the guy who was talking about the Russian Orthodox Church. It's funny that you mention that, because if Russia is so Russian Orthodox, then isn't Putin doing exactly what Bush is? Wouldn't Chechnya be an occupied nation of Muslims because of a Christian nation's lust for their resources? I don't know what's in Chechnya or anything about it, but I bet Putin just wants their oil or titanium or something so he can give it to Yukos (I bet his cabinet is full of people who used to work for them). Probaly planning to invade the Ukraine next so they'll make tanks for them.
How could Russians be so stupid to have voted a centralising tyrant like Putin into office after he wasn't even elected in the first place? But it's not their fault, they've been brainwashed by their corporate shill of a media that's more interested in entertainment and profits than truth (they have naked ancors for Chirst sake.)

Now I've said something almost as outrageous and close to insulting as you did.

The US faces an obvious double standard in the world.
The US has a lot of Greeks too, which means that it has a lot of Greek Orthodox... Did you forget about them?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:51 AM  

D, you are a dirty bastard. Seriously, you probably came to this blog by searching for porn. You have obviously been following in the steps of other useless argumentative losers who say that they have endless amounts of subject matter backing them up, while not saying any of it.

On another note, SORE THUMBS ROCKS!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:49 PM  

i am not going to denie tat arguing about this is useless, because ive argued with alot of people in real life and i know it doesnt help, thats why i had no intention on arguing there. i only intended on stating my side of this opinion. and i did give some of my reasons, which were how i rarely hear 2 different christian/catholics say the same thing about it, and how if you have to beleive that something created us, then who created the thing that created us? and then who created the thing that created the thing that created us, and so on and so forth. or, if god was always there, and he created us, then how do you know we werent always here and he just never existed. another point is, Christianity is just the major religion now, and you are practically telling me that i'm crazy for not beleiveing in it, but in other eras, there were other major religions, and if you told them that they were wrong, tey would have told you that you were crazy. in another few hundred years, there will be a new major world religion, and someone else will be saying that it is wrong, and no one will beleiv them. also, i did not find this by searching for porn, i found this by using the link from Sore Thumbs, which you said rocks, so i am obviously not that bad if i agree with you on the matter that it does rock. i dont want to argue with you, so i just want to drop it, so i wont be posting again.

posted by: D

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:26 AM  

Good, then i get the last word. If existence has always existed, what came before it? And if eternity is real, then why couldn't an eternal being be real? The problem of beginnings is an insoluble problem for everything.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:56 PM  

Yeah dude. You're having the kind of conversation that potheads sitting around the dorm room have. "If god created everything, then what created him?" "Wow, cosmic..."

I'll explain this simply; Most religions believe that god is outside the realm of human understanding. So, god can defy logic as we know it if he wants to. Yes, I agree that it creates a self-fufilling delusion, but you still can't augue against it. It's entirely possible that god does exsist.

I'm not sure who is famous for this relatively simple observation, but it's attributed to someone.
Let's say that there's a 1% chance that god exsists and a 99% chance he doesn't. Well, if you believe in god and live life according to the bible or whatever and god didn't exsist, what have you lost? You're dead, there's no afterlife, so life is pretty pointless to begin with.
What if you don't believe in god and you've just managed to piss him (whatever he is off), by not professing that he didn't exsist?
So, you're a fool if you don't believe in god if you're trying to hedge your bets.
(This aurgument is the simplest response to your obtuse aurgument. Yes, there are more complicated aurguments against what I've just written, of course, but I'm just mentioning to show that you're being narrowed minded. Most likely because you're unconcerned with truth and emotionally invested in your viewpoint. Not that I know you or anything, but that's why most people hold onto poorly thought out conclusions.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:43 AM  

To the person who invoked Pascal's Wager (Anonymous 3:43): is it really belief, or faith, if it's inspired by such a "oh, why the hell not?" attitude? Isn't the process of weighing the odds just a form of acknowledgement that God quite likely doesn't exist?

-Piig-

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:35 PM  

Right, as I said, this was just for the dude that obviously wasn't thinking (and, oh yeah, that guy. I don't really think it should be attribuated to anyone though, since it's such a simple idea that millions of people have undoubtabley had on their own.)
You're right, there are other aurguments against it as well. For example, you can ask the question: Does god want people "playing the odds" with their religion?

In any event, my thought on religion that people who don't believe in god is this. It's hard to have moral people unless they think their actions have repercusions in the afterlife. The only thing that substitutes is an oppressive society, which is sort of playing the odds too... because if its society calling the shots on your morality, then you can only be as moral as your society.

Again, people like to have this debate, but I assure you, that none of you (or me) is going to say anything that hasn't been said before and you most certainly won't make any progress on it. You know, if that's your goal, to fee like a bigshot because you made people think like you, or you've had a deep original thought.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:11 AM  

Let me throw in my thoughts on this little debate: There is no inherent problem with Islam from an administrative point-of-view. Whether or not Muhamed was a flase prophet is a moot point- the test of any religion is in the moral behavior of the practitioners (in this case, Moslem). The problem when we talk about the religion taught in Iraq is that it is not Islam as Muhamed wrote it, but an altered version of it.
The Koran (as well as the bible, or most other religious testaments) can be regarded as a history book, and it has been said that those in charge write the history books. By doing this, the powers that be within Iraq, and many other middle-eastern nations, have changed these texts to fit the ideals of that administration- allowing their citizens to kill in the name of the state without fear of retribution from Allah.
This is similar to the censorship that can be found within in the bible- such as the erasure of passages concerning Lilith from Genesis, and the removal of all three Academias of the Apocrypha- excecpt that reasons for this censor cannot be as easily determined.
In any case, any talk of the validity of any religion is out of place in a discussion of matters of state, such as this is. I would think that religion could only be included so far as it affected matters of government, or perhaps even reasons for the actions of the government.

~Yeah, sure. After all that, you're getting an id. Uh-huh. ^_~

By Anonymous anonymous, at 8:36 PM  

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